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- May 8, 2023 at 5:06 pm #3439adolfoParticipant
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Hi everyone! New player here.
I have recently started playing Minetest, I tried some mods and games and I decided to try Mesecraft in the survival server. I haven’t found Mesecraft to be particularly challenging. I mean, I have been dying a lot, particularly at the beginning, but I’d say that’s part of the game, and it is kind of fun. I am really enjoying Mesecraft overall.
There are some things that I have liked a lot in the early game:
- Smoke. I love it. It forces you to think about your buildings (adding chimneys or ventilation) so you can have furnaces and torches inside and keep breathing. I wish that there were more things like this, that forced you to design your buildings and rooms according to their use.
- Thirst/hunger. Simple yet effective mechanism to keep you on your toes. You just cannot go around exploring or mining with no consequence: you have to make sure that you have enough food and water to keep going. I even installed a small “swimming pool” on my first underground base.
- Depleting torches. Amazing, it’s so simple yet effective. Torches depleting means that now light becomes a resource that you have to care for. You go mining and you cannot put torches everywhere because they switch off. Torches are bad for your home because they generate smoke and they don’t work longterm. You have to find other more stable light sources (mese is a long way down the road), and that’s part of the fun.
From my first runs I have a couple of suggestions:
- Not-so-early game light. Without mese (and with depleting torches), you have very few options for stable sources of light: candles and oil lanterns. Oil lanterns are quite doable (you still need to dig a little but not too much) and it’s good that they don’t have so much light power. Candles on the other side are surprisingly expensive, because you need bee wax, and, unless I am missing something, for that you need a honey extractor that requires mese crystals. Wouldn’t it be possible to melt honeycomb on the furnace and obtain bee wax?
- Knowing more about tools. I am having a difficult time trying to grasp how to optimize the use of tools. I understand that there are many tiers of tools made of different materials, and it seems that some minerals can be more or less durable and more or less damaging to their corresponding type of block. Still, other minetest games have more information about damage, speed and durability. Do I go for bronze or steel? If I ever get arcanite, do I use it for tools or I use them for other varied uses because they’re not worth it? Do golden or fruit tools have any kind of advantage? Maybe it is just me, but in general (not only for tools or swords) I would appreciate a little bit of in-game information (just inside the tooltip of some inventory items).
In any case, I am having a lot of fun, and I’ll keep joining the survival server.
See you around!May 9, 2023 at 8:34 am #3440keihdraParticipant
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Welcome to Mesecraft, adolfo. Pumpkin lights are probably the easiest good light for early game. Something else to add to your garden. Let me know if you need seeds to get started.
As for tools, steel should be your early game target. Way better than wood, stone, iron, or bronze. Later game, mese tools are probably the most useful. Arcanite tools are good quality, but februm and egerum are better used in crafting magical items rather than tools. You’ll find the time of speed, staff of earth, and void chests to be extremely useful, among other items. Fruit tools are extremely expensive and really not worth it. Steel and then mese are the main tools that I stick to. Diamond is the top of the line, but unless you just have a huge excess just use diamond for armor and crafting.May 9, 2023 at 10:02 am #3441komodoParticipant
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That’s a helpful response from @keihdra. Steel is a great early game toolset until you can get to Mese,Diamond, or even Mithril. Tools need some more work to stand out from each other. I need to figure something out with lighting that works well. People tend to make MeseLamps and chop them up with the table saw to get more out of them. Pumpkins is kind of a player discovered workaround for now, it seems to work well if you can get a farm for them going. It’s a bit silly and really funny.
@adolfo, I really appreciate the feedback and the positive feedback is inspiring and motivating for me. Thank you. I’ve been getting a bit more time to work on MeseCraft lately, and I’ve been starting to make progress with it again. Help is always welcome too, I think I need to layout some areas that need work though because not everyone knows where to help out.
In game documentation is a thing that people bring up a lot. It needs to be added, but since there is a lot changing in the game right now it’s hard to prioritize it because a lot of it will change. I’ll get to that somehow. I was thinking books or maybe in game tips or a manual could be helpful.
If you get the time, please try to leave feedback for MeseCraft on the Minetest ContentDB as it helps the game grow in popularity too. Welcome to the MeseCraft community. I’m happy you joined us! 🙂May 9, 2023 at 6:33 pm #3445komodoParticipant
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A good answer to your question about ores and tool strengths here: https://www.mesecraft.com/forums/topic/a-guide-to-minerals-alloys-rocks-and-crystals/ by @kiopythelmaMay 10, 2023 at 1:22 am #3446a5810Participant
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I may add some more:
- Use a tool if you want to know its duration, damage and speed, for it depends on the block that you want to break.
- Permanent fire source seems to be better than temporary one, but the latter that gives dim light will help you create something interesting.
- In game documentation’s useful, but information in minetest wiki will help you begin your journey in the vision. It’s outdated though.
It’s strange that the fire place won’t make smoke, and burns without coals, and oil lantern gives permanent light without oil. But it’s another story.May 10, 2023 at 3:01 pm #3512adolfoParticipant
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Thanks all! You’ve been quite helpful.
I am honestly having a very good time playing this, still a lot of things to do and explore.
It’s very good that everyone is so supportive and willing to help, it compensates the lack of in-game documentation and it is actually more fun 🙂
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